FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION, THE EARTH IS CONSISTENTLY DESCRIBED (BY HOLY SPIRIT INSPIRED AUTHORS) AS:
- Fixed and not moving (spinning, orbiting, etc)
- Circular, with edges/corners/pillars/foundations, etc.
- Under a dome, within which the sun, moon and stars were placed on Day 4
According to the Bible, we live in a self-contained, three-tiered system {Heaven, Earth, Underworld}:
Job 1:7-8; 2:2-3; 37:12; 38:30-34; Gen. 28:12-17; Ex. 20:4; Num. 16:31-33; Deut. 5:8; 1 Sam. 28:13-14; 1 Chron. 29:11; 2 Chron. 6:4; Psa. 46:8-10; 113:6; 119:19; Isa. 14:9-11; 51:13-14; Joel 2:30; Amos 9:2; Luke 10:15; 16:19-31; Acts 2:19; Phil. 2:10; 1 Pet. 3:18-20; 2 Pet. 2:4-5; Jude 6; Rev. 5:3, 13; 9:1-11; 20:14
(See also: 2 Esdr. 4:7-8; 1 Enoch 89:1-9; Pesachim 94b)
There is a solid firmament (dome/vault) over us:
(See also: 2 Apoc. Baruch 21:4; Gen. Rabbah 4.5.2; Josephus Antiquities 1:30)
And lest you be tempted to argue about the issue of the firmament as a “dome,” consider how nearly everyone else understood this same structure:
The Sumerian god Anu existed in their cosmogony as a dome that covered the flat earth; Outside of this dome was the primordial body of water known as Nammu (not to be confused with the subterranean Abzu).[1]
The Egyptians depicted the sky as a side-view arch represented by the goddess Nut.
The (early) Greeks had a similar concept of an enclosed, circular world.
The Norse mythology shared a similar concept:
Here is the Irish megalithic rock art symbol for the firmament:
The Mayans, Incas and Navajos likewise viewed the cosmos as:
Indeed, this concept shows up over and over again in the ancient literature of numerous cultures (including the Hebrews) as well as in the artwork inspired by such writings.
Like it or not – believe it or not – there can be no doubt that the ancient Hebrew concept of the cosmos was precisely as depicted by the scholars of Logos Bible Software (even though they personally do not believe this model to be true):
YHWH’s throne sits above the heavens (waters):
The sun, moon and stars are in the firmament {and the stars shall fall to Earth}:
There are “floodgates” (windows) in the firmament:
Gen. 7:11; 8:2; 2 Kings 7:2-19; Mal. 3:10
The Earth is inscribed in a circular (flat) fashion into something with 4 corners and surrounded by water:
Earth is a geocentric, stationary world set on pillars:
For more on the science demolishing geocentric model, please see my blog:
https://robschannel.com/the-principle-a-must-see-documentary
Also worth careful consideration:
For more related information, please go to: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/bible.html
- Rob Skiba
Thanks for your diligence to search and seek a ‘thing’ out, and share your journey with us. Blessings
Great work Rob. So grateful I have access to such an amazing resource, blessings bro.
In these last days what does all this have to do with bringing people into the kingdom? All this time wasted on a subject of no significance. We debate flat/round earth while people are going to hell. When It comes to the eternity of ones soul who cares what the shape the earth is. It’s all going to be destroyed anyways so who cares. All this does is divide the body
Matthew, please educate yourself before commenting again. Thanks. This is not dividing (except among those – like yourself – who apparently have no idea what they are talking about). This is a TINY FRACTION of the fruit this subject has brought in. I’d love to compare fruit baskets if you insist after reading this: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/testimonies.html
Since god is omniscient god already know the fate of all people beforehand, there can be no free will separate from the all-seeing omnipresent gaze of god which includes past present and future.
Bottom line: nasa, a lucifarian organisation, is funding an elaborate, expensive, long term lie through its space program and global atheistic
school education programme to teach, preach the ‘earth is a globe’ lie to HIDE the gospel. They know that the moment the world identiifies the truth and reality of the dome, they they will identify and see the truth and reality of the Creator YHWH.
Mathew, better check the NAZI NASA budget for 2016 -merely 93 billion $!!! Count it multiplying back to 1958(Nazi NASA’s foundation) If you don’t care what for your taxed money have gone “thanks” to the corrupted government, gratulations! You are brainwashed and zombied thoroughly 🙂
It is so very frustrating that believers cannot see the importance of this information. The fact that the Father left this information for us to rediscover in these latter days may be nothing more than additional confirmation that He is Who He has said He is, and He is going to do what He has said He is going to do….that alone makes this of great importance. Most believers may not need this confirmation, but if He has left it for us to find, then it is sure that there are believers who need this confirmation. Thank you for being a believer with the ability to share this truth in such a complete and yet succinct manner.
I am a christian, i do believe heaven is above us and the firmament, unbreakable, and hell is below us, God will show me many other things, like he always has.
I have been watching you and many others, but living in Scotland it feels that i am on my own here, does not matter how loud i shout at many people, they still walk with there eyes shut!.
Keep up your good work, you are on the right path, God is always watching. kerri
Just a thought. Is it possible the firmament was clear ice. Then during flood it melted? And now we have just the ozone left to separate earth from space?
There is NO “SPACE”, mike, sorry 🙂 ISS, “planets,galaxies,stars” all this stuff is bul****! 🙂
Go buy a telescope and you can see with your own eyes that stars and galaxies exist. Oh but wait, did NASA plant fake stars in the sky? What kind of crackpot theory do you have about telescopes? You people are literally insane.
Rob,
How does your demolishing geocentric model explain what Galileo observed?
That Venus goes through all the phases, which cannot be explained unless Venus is orbiting the Sun.
How does your demolishing geocentric model explain the south celestial pole?
http://s813.photobucket.com/user/astrobrant2/media/Disproofs%20of%20Flat%20Earth/Illustrations%201-10/84c5d0fc-c813-40e3-be84-ed67e5d47e0f_zpsju2moxga.png.html?o=29
How does your demolishing geocentric model explain lunar eclipses??
There is no conflict in the geocentric model with what you have posted.
really.. for starters there is no conflict with that link??
your in denial..
Southern “pole star” effect reproduced with a glass dome.
STAR TRAILS AND THE DOME
https://youtu.be/7v_WiapFjA8
I’m sorry, but this does nothing to further the gospel to bring people to Christ. Even if I was a firm believer in this flat earth stuff (which I’m not) I still would be more concerned about bringing people to Christ than getting blue in the face about something that doesn’t determine whether you’re going to heaven or hell.
I’m sorry Chris, but you are exceptionally ignorant on at least three points:
1) You are QUITE WRONG concerning this issue allegedly doing “nothing to further the gospel to bring people to Christ” as evidenced by this TINY fraction of the fruit that has poured into my basket (care to compare with yours?) as a result of investigating this subject: http://testingtheglobe.com/testimonies.html
2) You GREATLY err in your extremely ignorant ASSUMPTION that I am apparently (in your view) not concerned about bringing people to Christ.
3) I am not “blue in the face”- I am however, passionate in showing what the Bible DOES say as opposed to spreading erroneous doctrine about what it does NOT say.
Please educate yourself before making future comments attempting to condemn what I am doing. Thanks.
Rob, I’ll recommand You to search YouTube for “NASA using Green Screen to fake ISS footage” by DITRH (2 min. long) . That video can bring You to some new ideas … Thank You
Hi Rob
I just listened to one of your interviews on The Sharpening and you mentioned something about the Coriolis Effect and how it affects snipers and such. I was questioned on this also by a “globalist” and after looking into it, I think there is some deception in it.
To get a better understanding of this Coriolis Effect that is supposed to be caused by the spinning of the earth, I researched it on the internet. Wow, the wikipedia site shows the crazy calculations that they say are necessary to calculate it. There is absolutely no way anyone, that does not have an engineers or math majors degree, could even consider calculating it. So I just used basic math and logic to see if it even made sense.
(From a web site) The earth rotates at a speed of almost exactly 1000 miles an hour at the equator (that’s easy to figure out: 24,000 miles/24 hours). But this speed is different depending on what latitude you’re at. If you live in Miami, you are moving at 940 mph, but if you live in Washington, DC you are moving only 818 mph. In Oslo you are moving at just 534 mph. The inhabitants of the little town of Alert, Canada are traveling at a leisurely 144 mph.
So with this theory I propose this example………
I am shooting directly north with a 30-30 rifle in Washington, I would need to calculate this;
The earth will move left to right at 818 mph or 1200fps. So if I’m shooting at a target 2,200 feet away, and my bullet travels at 2200 fps, in one second the world will have rotated 1,200 feet to the right, just as my bullet is to hit the target. This means I need to aim 1,200 ft to my right in order to hit the target. Hmmm. Something doesn’t seem right. And what if I was shooting north/west or north/east? I would have to know my exact co-ordinates to calculate how much to lead on my shot, as the more I start to go east or west towards shooting directly south, my lead time would diminish and need to be more of a left lead. I never was told this at anytime when on the rifle range at Cadets, private ranges or when out hunting with friends.
From a scope manufactures website;
When shooting beyond 1000 yards, long-range shooters begin to encounter exotic effects that are not an issue at closer ranges. The more common and best understood is Bullet Drift. A lot of attention is paid to bullet velocity but that bullet is also spinning, and at a considerable rate. Our Black Hills .338 Lapua Mag. projectile, with a muzzle velocity of 2800 FPS, exiting a barrel with a 1:12 rate-of-twist, is spinning at 168,000 RPMs. By the time the bullet has traveled 1000 yards, that tremendous rotation will cause the bullet to drift slightly in the direction it rotates – roughly one Minute of Angle. The only way to predict this effect at greater ranges is either to have tested a rifle and its load at those distances or to employ a reliable ballistic computer. In most cases, I suspect that snipers make their best guess and shoot. Less understood and less predictable is the Coriolis Effect. This is not an aerodynamic effect, but the slight pull of earth’s rotation on a bullet, pulling it a tiny bit right or left. Seldom considered by riflemen because it’s only a concern at extreme ranges, this deviation varies according to where the shooter is located, and the direction of his fire. It’s greatest on the poles and least on the equator, and the closer a shooter is to firing directly east or west, he can minimize its impact. However, again, calculating the effect requires a ballistic computer and, I suspect, most snipers make their best guess and take the shot. The day may come when all these factors and considerations are calculated automatically for a shooter. But having seen how much goes into such an extreme-range shot, I think you’ll share my appreciation for the amount of skill, knowledge and shooting experience required for today’s snipers to make these incredible shots. They have earned the respect of riflemen everywhere
And another thing to consider in regards to this Coriolis Effect, do aircraft pilots calculate for it when approaching the runway on landing? This Coriolis Effect would be a much greater concern for pilots than for those shooting rifles because of the slower speed of the aircraft, and the sideways movement of the earth as the aircraft is speeding down the runway after touchdown. The earth would be sliding sideways underneath them as the momentum of the plane continues forward like you trying to jump on a treadmill facing it from the side.
And on the subject of aircraft, why is it that the chemtrails are always straight across the sky? Once these commercial planes reach cruising altitudes of 30 – 40,000’, they maintain that altitude until landing, yet the trails left don’t curve as they should with a globe earth model. If they travel at 700mph, and take 15 minutes to go from first sighting until out of site, the trail could be as much as 175 miles long, with no curve!!
Another thing I’ve heard is that hurricane winds are caused by the Coriolis Effect. Apparently, the ones on the north side of the equator spin one direction while the ones on the south side spin opposite. This same effect could be caused by the moon and/or sun rotating overhead in a flat earth model, drawing everything underneath in the same direction, the same as someone running down a hallway. Any dust or hair on the right would spin in a clockwise direction as it gets dragged down the hallway with the air current, while the stuff on the left would spin counter clockwise. This is how the moon also would affect our tides. The science they use to promote the global earth theory cannot allow for the moon to affect our tides. If the mass of the earth keeps the moon in its orbit around us, scientifically, the moon should have no effect on our tides. Science cannot have it both ways.
I wanted to find some information that would help confirm my understanding of how the sun and moon might cause this Coriolis Effect and found the 2 videos below. The 3rd one is a web sited that had them and others that might help you in your research.
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I am also struggling to understand the southern star trails in the flat earth model. The Southern Crux is apparently seen from all the land masses at the southern hemisphere, but how can it, and all the other stars possibly make the same circular sweep as the north does in the flat earth model? The only thing I can fathom is maybe at each of the “corners of the earth” there is a smaller dome that meets the northern dome part way up. Think of a domed cathedral, with four domed rooms adjoining it. They would each have to mirror a main one so that they all contain the souther constellations. Just an idea but I don’t think it would work.
I thought you might like this video on what the stars might be. I won’t get into it much right now but keep in mind that we are mostly water, with the Spirit of Yahweh in us, and we are to be a shining light to others. Remember how Moses glowed when he came down from the mountain. Maybe he was “energized” that the bubble in the bottle.
Frequency of the Heavens: Cymatics, Bio & Sonoluminescence, actual stars and planets
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Anyway, just thought I would pass this information along. Keep up the good work and be strong. It’s hard presenting this kind of stuff without some negative energy being thrown back at us.
Fellow Truth seeker, and Follower of Yahshua
Travis Clarke
Fergus, Ontario
Rob, to be honest, when I first heard of this flat earth idea, I laughed. But as a person who is open-minded, I listened, I read, I researched only a little bit and could easily see how this all made some sense. Then I found your videos on the subject. You brought up valid points that made even more connections to how this could be. I’m not new to cruising through the rabbit hole of truths but I have been quite surprised by how many tunnels the rabbit hole has! The powers that be, whoever they are, have gone to extreme lengths to keep us all from the truths. Unless people are willing to go that extra mile, like you and others, they have no idea how purposely blinded they are.
Never mind the nay-sayers out there who resort to name calling in order to discourage you from your venture. They are simply upset that their world has been presented with doubt and are clearly not ready to know or accept that their world may not be how they thought it was. Please, continue to connect the dots to get to the truths. I am not able to do the extensive research for the answers, so I appreciate all that you are doing. It will all come together some day.
Rob, have you considered that the pre-The Flood Earth-Heavens may / were different from the post-Flood Earth-Heavens? Following Henry Morris III speaks in the following audio about some of the changes:
http://www.henrymorris3.com/episode-5-very-different-earth/
You have posted the pagan concepts. Have you considered that those pagan concepts would be evidences which point to error instead of truth?
“God is a spirit.” Therefore God’s throne is NOT of His physical creation.
There is only one Hebrew word for “stars.” Therefore, planets, comets, asteroids are all stars, which do “fall from heaven.”
The “floodgates / windows in the firmament” relates to the CREATION of the pre-The Flood “Earth-firmament-waters” above, etc. We have no idea about what the pre-The Flood Earth was like, except, as Henry Morris III states, from the fossil evidence of a very luscious plant and animal living matters. We have no idea about what took place beneath The Flood waters during the first 190 days of 40 + 150 days! What we do know is that the Earth’s land masses are covered by vast depths of sedimentary layers containing their fossil evidences indicating the pre-The Flood Earth. Have you considered the logistics of your supposed Antarctic circular ridge of ice’s ability to contain The Flood waters and ravages?
I took the time to research the Hebrew words, 127 earth, 776 earth, 2789 and 8398 world. You cannot get a flat earth from these definitions! I looked up the Hebrew words, 4690 pillars, 5982 pillar, 4676 pillar, 4890 pillars, 547 pillars, 5982 pillar. You cannot get a flat earth from these definitions! I looked up the Hebrew words, 3235 foundation, 4639 work, 2311 foundation, 2602 foundation. You cannot get a flat earth from these definitions! I looked up 6471 corners, 3671 corners-wing. You cannot get a flat earth from these definitions! The reason you cannot is that the context doesn’t allow you to do so.
You have decided to take The Bible’s text LITERALLY. As I mentioned, previously, I have a book, “Figures of Speech Used in the Bible,” which has 1022 pages itemizing the various types of figures of speech used by the biblical recorders of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek constructions. You need to know when the biblical text is using figures of speech vs our literal ENGLISH interpretations.
The following video does an excellent job of giving examples of what you need to understand from the context of the references in The Bible.
I know that you are busy, but could you, please, let me know that you have at least read what I have been posting??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-JzDtgBw3I
So, using your logic, aren’t current maps then inaccurate, since obviously the Greeks must have had it right! I mean, that is a huge logical leap…it doesn’t really prove anything, other than show that the Greeks didn’t know how many continents, or the extant therein.
Just watched your video “Flat Earth Conspiracy Exposed” and was blown away, by your stupidity. Do you and your viewers buy you trying to equate the year 1908 AD to the year 1908 since creation?
Then you claim Nimrod himself went to Antarctica? Nimrod was the name of the ship and the expedition, good lord. You have no credibility on this subject, please stop
I’m “blown away by YOUR stupidity.” You apparently have a serious lack of basic comprehension skills. “Good lord” I NEVER said Nimrod went to Antarctica! I said I found it interesting that the MAN Nimrod was born in 1908 AM and that his goal (later in life) was to “reach into Heaven.” And then we flash forward to 1908 and we have a SHIP by the same name going to the place where SOME believe the dome (firmament) connects to the Earth – the implication of which would therefore of course be ANOTHER (possible) way to “reach into Heaven.” Please either work on your mental issues or step away from the keyboard and don’t ever comment here again with insults based on strawman arguments. Thanks.
Then why claim you don’t believe Flat Earth while claiming you are a christian and believe the Bible, if you claim the Bible is flat earth? lol
Sounds like you’re behind the learning curve. Let me catch you up to speed: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/conclusions.html
You’ve actually stated in several interviews that you aren’t fully on board with flat earth, or that you’re agnostic on the subject.
Sounds like you need to catch up with yourself then….lol.
Sorry, but you have too many interviews stating that, so I couldn’t help but notice what should be obvious.
Sounds like people need to catch up with my interviews. I ditched the “zetetic agnostic” title almost a year ago now.
The Gospel can be shared by any means. I don’t understand why people think evangelizing is just saying JESUS LOVES YOU and that’s it. Since NASA is demonic , there is a good reason they tell us we are monkeys spinning on a ball or they wouldn’t exist. Satan needs a nice deep space to bring in aliens aka his demons. That’s one reason. There’s many reasons to expose the spinning globe earth deep space lie. And guess what , you can talk about Christ while doing it.
A plane must prove about the globe earth or the flat earth. A pilot or many pilot should know it even if i dont have my statement.
Refuteit Apologetics Ministry has listed 300+ scriptures used by flat earthers and has debunked the flat earth interpretation of those verses. Plus they have scriptures that prove gravity in the Bible and the globe earth.
Many of the scriptures you use the website shows are debunked as not proving the flat earth, so I guess you can’t call the Bible a flat earth book. See for yourself: http://www.refuteit.com/flat-earth-debunked.html
There is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much wrong with the exceptionally ignorant arguments on that site it would literally take me months to debunk all of his “debunking.” Wow. SMH. But believe whatever you want. I don’t really care.