I’ve heard many Christians and “Bible scholars” try to say that the “four corners” of the Earth mentioned in Scripture are just the 4 cardinal points. In fact, GotQuestions.org even used this argument:
Question: “Does the Bible teach that the earth is flat?”
Answer: Many a skeptic claims that the Bible depicts a flat earth. Scriptural references such as Revelation 7:1 are cited, which speaks of “four angels standing at the four corners of the earth.” However, this passage makes reference to the cardinal directions as seen on a compass – i.e. north, south, east and west.
This is laughable – but also totally unsupported by basic knowledge of a globe and it is of course NOT Biblical.
Find a globe and show us where the East and West poles are! I dare ya. If you are going to say that these CORNERS are cardinal POINTS, then you need to show where these actual ends/corners/quarters are. Finding the North and South end points are easy. But where are the East and West end points? Go look. I’ll wait. In the meantime, I’ll direct the reader’s attention to…
Psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
Scripture says our sins can be removed as far away as the East is from the West, precisely because the point is there is NO East end/corner/quarter that you can arrive at and measure its distance from to the West. If you are going to make the claim that the Bible is referring to the four cardinal points, and that East and West have ends that can be conceived of, then the Psalmist is telling us that YHWH removes our sins only about 11,495.367 miles away. That would indeed be depressing if true.
Further complicating the problem are Scriptures like:
Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
In both of these Scriptures (one in Hebrew and one in Greek) the concept of beings located at a specific point/end/corner is clearly conveyed. So, again, where are the East and West points on a ball?? And if you use the usual understanding of the Psalmist’s view, then I feel sorry for the poor “dispersed of Judah” and the angels that are so infinitely far removed from the East/West. Oops!
So, this whole “four corners represents the four cardinal points” argument is patently absurd. Yet, I hear “Bible scholars” using it all the time in a vain attempt at justifying any notion that the Bible even remotely supports a globular model of our world.
One might argue then, where are these points on a circle? Don’t you have the same problem? No. Not when you consider what both Job and Solomon (two witnesses establishing a matter) said:
Job 26:10 He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.
Proverbs 8:27 When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep
In this case, it’s quite easy to see how Isaiah’s “circle of the Earth” was INSCRIBED (i.e. cut into) something else that likely has four legitimate corners/ends.
-Rob Skiba
Thanks for all your articles and videos, etc. about flat earth. There are many but I appreciate your view since you love Jesus.
Questions, though. If the earth is a circle, how are there four corners? I have seen illustration with a circle sitting within a square. Where do they get that from? Is that what you believe it looks like, too? And the four pillars it sits on? I thought sheol was a spiritual place like heaven. Or do you think the third heaven (paradise) is a physical place above the firmament. It seems that it would be, if we contemplate that Jesus has flesh and bones and the first fruits (those who rose from the dead and came out of the tombs at his resurrection) have physical bodies like Jesus, too. What do you think?
I’ve always wondered this. Most reliable source out there in my opinion!
Think of God’s view of earth, with his throne above the unmoving North Star, Polaris. When he looks down from heaven, he says he sees us as ants, walking on the ‘circle of the earth’. Circle is a 2-D description. There is a totally different word in Hebrew for circle (Chug) and for ball. In this passage in Isaiah, it uses the 2-d word for circle, meaning that he created it in this way, unmoving, with pillars, a foundation that does not move, spin, or tilt in any way. The first heaven is where the birds fly, inside the open firmament of heaven where the sun and moon have their courses, and the second heaven is the firmament, where the stars are inside, and all but seven stars move within the firmament, which in Genesis says it divides the waters above from the waters below so the stars are in water. With high powered zoom cameras today you can actually see them in the water rippling, changing colors, not all white like telescopes show only the reflection. The firmament is described as a canopy, a tent to dwell in, which is usually on a flat surface, not a ball. It creates startrails to the viewers here on earth from the firmament moving, not the earth. The sun and moon move exactly like a clock, which is on a 24 hour dial. They are small, possibly only 30 miles diameter, and not 270,000 miles away but only about 3000 miles or less. The sun is definitely not 93 million miles away. All this changed only about 500 years ago when the Jesuits studied astronomy and astrology, throw some kabbalism and satanism in the mix and they became full on satan worshipers, they communicate with extra-terrestrials daily or nightly with their high-powered equipment, they can see the stars up close. The Vatican is funding them to build all their observation decks all over the world, and they even own some in the USA under the guise of being for the universities nearby, they are for the Jesuit order and papacy to use.
Matthew 2:1
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem.
East of Jerusalem or East of the globe. Since as you have stated there is no east. Just saying!
There is east, it is one direction, think of the world as the face of a clock with the sun and moon being the hands. The clock is laying down flat, face-up on a table. The sun and moon always move in a westerly direction, or clock-wise. To go the opposite direction is east, or counter-clock-wise. The north is in the center of the clock, right beneath Polaris, the north star which does not move, ever. It is like the pinnacle of a tent, with the firmament of stars in an invisible solid dome moving around slowly from west to east with the moon and sun.
So, if your East meets West in a circle, how is this different from East meeting West on a ball?
East never meets west on either model. That’s the point.
{edited from original – which was never read}
I believe I told you last year that I’m not even reading your trolling comments. I see your name and I delete. No time for your blithering nonsense. Future comments will likewise not be read and will be deleted. So, you probably shouldn’t even bother wasting your time typing that which no one (including me) will ever read on this site.
– Rob
Rob, if his comment was so dangerous, why not let it stand so we could all way whether or not it was so ridiculous? Especially since you took the time to respond to it, now I’m curious!
Not “dangerous.” He’s just an obnoxious troll who comes to my blog to regularly disagree with EVERYTHING I say. It got old and I no longer care to give him the space on my blog. It gets deleted the moment I see it.
The East-West is the Equator and the Prime Meridian. It’s not as hard as you think. You didn’t fully and properly investigate. Stand on whatever degree of latitude, and the opposite one on the opposite side of the earth is your pole. You can assign it either value (East of West) depending on your direction of travel, and your starting point will be the opposite of the pole you are traveling to.
Bummer if you believe that, because if you are right, our sins aren’t too far removed from us after all.
I’m pretty sure that sins aren’t related to navigation.
If east is that far from west, then how come you can travel 100 yards east, and return to your original spot by only traveling 100 yards back? I guess that means in this context then that sin is only 100 yards removed from me?
See, that is just a silly non-sequitur.
Maybe the earth is a tube? Ever think about that!!!!!
Dude, if you don’t know what the four directions are or how they relate to ‘poles'(convergence of longitude), it simply can’t be explained to you. You’re just disagreeing and arguing on this one purely for the sake of arguing.
Sorry, but this was just an exercise in futility on your part. You aren’t searching at this point, you just want and wish for things to be as disheveled as you proclaim them to be.
Tried to post this already, but I’ve been having internet issues all day–so take two. lol
It would appear that you are the one who is clueless when it comes to the cardinal points. Oh well. Move along now…
Really man, you’re going to just belittle me rather than attempt to explain what you mean?
Yeah, that’ll prove your point!
Pretty sure I know how cardinal points work. After watching your work and reading this blog, it seems you may have not quite understood what you thought you understood.
That is all.
Rob, this is what The Bible states regarding The Flood of Noah’s time:
https://www.facebook.com/icrscience/videos/10155125694639451/
How do you deal with all of the water covering the Earth according to your FE model?
Filling up a bathtub is FAR EASIER to understand than flooding a ball.
Rob, are you dismissing the effects of GRAVITY? Why is it that you can only JUMP SO HIGH?
What is the effect of GRAVITY upon a body of water on a sphere?
Gravity has never been proven, it is only a theory. The flat earth model is surrounded by a 200-1000 ft wall of ice, also known as the coast of Antarctica. The ‘fake’ south pole is all an act, to deceive, to keep curious minds and businesses out of the area there are military troops stationed down there 24/7. Tourists are allowed but only in certain places at certain times. It is a very controlled scientific/military based-occupied piece of land by over 40 nations. There is no evidence of circumnavigating the ocean around Antarctica, or should I say, the land of ice beyond the 200-1000 ft ice wall that lines the edge of every ocean worldwide. We can only jump so high because of our bodily mass and weight are heavier than air. We can jump less high underwater because our bodies are about as heavy as water, much heavier than air. Water cannot curve, and certainly cannot stick on the edge of a curve, without falling down. Science expects us to believe that the water magically sticks to the earth when nothing in the bible even suggests this type of creation in Genesis, or that Elohim gave the earth a good spin of 1000mph so that we would follow a giant sun, careening through space at 67,000 mph. and careen aimlessly through an ever-expanding galaxy. I am sticking to a literal bible translation for everything that has to do with creation. It is an amazing feeling when your eyes are opened from being under the scales of science all your life.
Agreed Ella 🙂 !
This is so true and even if we assume that the gravity theory is true and that the water is held on earth by the gravity then i should be able to tilt a glass full of water on its side without pouring the water the gravity will hold it in
Rob, do you have a FLAT FACE? Does your FACE have FOUR CORNERS? Take a look at how the noun, FACE-H6440, IS USED in each of the following verses SEARCHED on blueletterbible (Notice how Cain’s FACE is H6440, and the Earth’s FACE is also H6440.):
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face[H6440] of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face[H6440] of the waters.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open[H6440] firmament of heaven.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face[H6440] of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face[H6440] of the ground.
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence[H6440] of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his COUNTENANCE [H6440] fell.
And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy COUNTENANCE [H6440] fallen?
Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the FACE [H6440] of the earth; and from thy FACE [H6440] shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, [that] every one that findeth me shall slay me.
And Cain went out from the PRESENCE [H6440] of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face[H6440] of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face[H6440] of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
The earth also was corrupt BEFORE [H6440] God, and the earth was filled with violence.
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before ME;[H6440] for the earth is filled with violence through THEM;[H6440] and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before ME[H6440] in this generation.
Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face[H6440] of all the earth.
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face[H6440] of the earth.
And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark, BECAUSE OF [H6440] the waters of the flood.
And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the FACE[H6440] of the waters. (Rob, note “the face of the waters,” is also the phrase used in Genesis 1:2.)
And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the FACE[H6440] of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained [alive], and they that [were] with him in the ark.
Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the FACE[H6440] of the ground;
But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for THE WATERS [were] on THE FACE[H6440] of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.
And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first [month], the first [day] of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, THE FACE[H6440] OF THE GROUND was dry.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid [it] upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and THEIR FACES[H6440] [were] backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
He was a mighty hunter BEFORE[H6440] the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter BEFORE[H6440] the LORD.
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top [may reach] unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon THE FACE[H6440] of the whole earth.
So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence UPON THE FACE[H6440] of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Rob, is your HEAD FLAT? No, your head is a spherical shape, and your head has a 1/2 of a spherical shape.
You may recall that the “four living beasts” have FOUR FACES, and not ONE FACE.
Rob, I just read your rumination concerning Gen 3:15. This reference came to mind:
Gal 3:22
“But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”
The SIN-NATURE is passed from parent to child via REPRODUCTION. We, humans, reproduce SINNERS.
Psalm 19 begins thus: [[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]]
“The HEAVENS declare the glory of God; and the FIRMAMENT shews his HANDY WORK.
DAY UNTO DAY utters SPEECH, and NIGHT UNTO NIGHT shews KNOWLEDGE.
[There is] no SPEECH nor LANGUAGE, [where] THEIR VOICE is not heard.
THEIR LINE is gone out through all the earth, and THEIR WORDS to the end of the world. IN THEM HAS HE SET A TABERNACLE FOR THE SUN,
Which [is] AS A BRIDEGROOM COMING OUT OF HIS CHAMBER, [and] rejoices as a strong man TO RUN A RACE.
HIS GOING FORTH [is] from THE END OF HEAVEN, and HIS CIRCUIT UNTO THE ENDS OF IT: and THERE IS NOTHING HID FROM THE HEAT THEREOF.”
Rob, Psalm 19 has two sections: 1) The Heavens / the Stars / the Constellations are TELLING THE GOSPEL MESSAGE. 2) The Word of God / The Bible is TELLING THE GOSPEL MESSAGE.
Do you agree? Do you disagree?
SPEECH, KNOWLEDGE, LANGUAGE, THEIR VOICE, THEIR LINE, THEIR WORDS, IN THEM HAS HE SET A TABERNACLE FOR THE SUN, AS A BRIDEGROOM COMING OUT OF HIS CHAMBER, HIS GOING FORTH [is] from THE END OF HEAVEN, HIS CIRCUIT UNTO THE ENDS OF IT, THERE IS NOTHING HID FROM THE HEAT THEREOF.
All of the above statements relate to the Mazzaroth 12 CHAMBERS and their related 3 decans – 3 X 12 = 36 + 12 = 48 original constellations by which the Gospel message is SPOKEN throughout the 12 months of the year.
It is the Sun which is spoken of as “a bridegroom,” “his (the Sun’s) going forth,” “from the end of heaven,” “his (the Sun’s) CIRCUIT,” AND “UNTO THE ENDS OF IT (the 12 chambers of the Mazzaroth).”
“AS A BRIDEGROOM COMING OUT OF HIS CHAMBER, HIS GOING FORTH [is] from THE END OF HEAVEN, HIS CIRCUIT UNTO THE ENDS OF IT.
The Psalmist / The Bible states that the Sun makes a CIRCUIT through the LINE / the Mazzaroth once a year. The Gospel accounting has a beginning and an ending along the Mazzaroth constellations.
Psalm 19 CLEARLY STATES that the Sun MOVES ALONG ITS CIRCUIT of 12 Mazzaroth constellations ONCE PER YEAR.
Your FE Sun makes a circuit DAILY!!!!!
The Sun, actually, DOES NOT MOVE with respect to the Earth. It is the Earth which is ORBITING THE SUN. As the Earth orbits the Sun, The Sun APPEARS TO move against the background of the Mazzaroth constellations. The Earth, actually, moves in its orbit, such that, the Sun APPEARS to move out of one of the 12 Mazzaroth constellations into the next Mazzaroth constellation in sequence “in its (the Sun’s) circuit.”
Mary Wilson you are on crazy lady 😬
Rob, how are you going to explain this on your FE?
http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=1107
I had this discussion with Andrew Hoy from Project314.org about the four corners of the earth because I was curious about how it might relate to the four corners of the altar. He told me to research the Hebrew word for corners and it turns out it really just means wings or extremities. Andrew’s thought is that those extremities relate to the southern tips of South America, Africa, India and Australia. There is no reason to relate these corners to cardinal directions, and when you look at a flat earth map those points certainly look more like extremes than they would on a globe. So the expression “the four corners of the earth” he’s really just referring to for outermost extremities of the continents. This is the simplicity in Christ.
04-08-17
Rob Skiba from Facebook: “This is precisely the sort of doctrine I’m referring to that seems quite ridiculous when you actually take the time to think about it. Trust me. I had the same doctrine myself for most of my life. But please go back and re-read 1 John 2 – 5 and tell me how that fits your theology. You can’t be “made holy” while living in sin. The two are not remotely compatible.”
1Jo 2:5 “But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”
You CAN’T make yourself holy, Rob Skiba!
You CAN’T keep the Commandments of Yeshua, Rob Skiba!
Only God-Holy Spirit, WHO IS LOVE, can enable you to LOVE. LOVE fulfills the LAW / THE COMMANDMENTS.
Why did Jesus wash His disciples’ feet?
Peter wanted to be CLEAN, remember? “Then wash me all over my body” / paraphrase of Peter’s sentiment.
What did Jesus reply to Peter’s misunderstanding, Rob Skiba?
“You’ve bathed your body, already, Peter. It is your walking on the dusty roads in your sandals which is your problem. Your FEET ONLY need to be washed, because of your daily walking activities.”
1 John 1:5-10
“5 Now this is the message WE HAVE HEARD FROM HIM and declare to you: GOD IS LIGHT, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO DARKNESS IN HIM. 6 If we say, ‘We have fellowship with Him,’ yet we WALK in darkness, we are lying and are not practicing the truth. 7 But if we WALK in the light as He Himself is in the light, we HAVE FELLOWSHIP with one another, and THE BLOOD OF JESUS HIS SON CLEANSES US FROM ALL SIN. 8 If we say, “We have no sin,” we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, He is FAITHFUL and RIGHTEOUS to FORGIVE us our sins and to CLEANSE us from ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. 10 If we say, ‘We don’t have any sin,’ we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”
Rob, Peter just needed his FEET WASHED! Peter’s DAILY WALKING / DAILY SINNING needed to be cleaned. It was IMPOSSIBLE for Peter to keep the LAW! It is IMPOSSIBLE for Rob, for Mary, for all of your thousands of Facebook followers TO KEEP THE LAW!
JOhn 13:34
“A NEW COMMANDMENT I give unto you, That you LOVE ONE ANOTHER; AS I HAVE LOVED YOU, that you also LOVE ONE ANOTHER.”
1Joon 2:7
“Brethren, I write NO NEW COMMANDMENT unto you, but AN OLD COMMANDMENT which YOU HAD FROM THE BEGINNING. The OLD COMMANDMENT is THE WORD WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE BEGINNING.”
(Rob, OBEDIENCE = LOVE for Yeshua!)
1Jo 2:8
Again, A NEW COMMANDMENT I write unto you, WHICH THING IS TRUE IN HIM AND IN YOU: because THE DARKNESS IS PAST, AND THE TRUE LIGHT NOW SHINES.”
Rob Skiba, does THE TRUE LIGHT NOW SHINE FROM WITHIN YOUR INNER-BEING? Has SALVATION come to indwell Rob Skiba? Are you WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB? If so, then you need ONLY to have your FEET WASHED; you need ONLY to have your DAILY SINS dealt with in confession according to 1John 1:9.
By experience during these past few years YOU, SURELY KNOW that you are 100% incapable of KEEPING THE LAW, how ever you have rationalized THE LAW for Rob Skiba!
2John 1:5
“And now I beseech you, lady, not as though I wrote A NEW COMMANDMENT UNTO YOU, but THAT WHICH WE HAD FROM THE BEGINNING, that WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
Rob, here is the “from the beginning” COMMANDMENT TO LOVE – Yeshua / Neighbors:
Deuteronomy 6:5-6 “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your HEART, with all your SOUL, and with all your STRENGTH. These words that I am giving you today ARE TO BE IN YOUR HEART.”
Mar 12:29-31 “‘This is THE MOST IMPORTANT,’ Jesus answered:
‘Listen, Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is One. LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, with all YOUR SOUL, with all YOUR MIND, and with all YOUR STRENGTH. The second is: LOVE your NEIGHBOR as yourself. THERE IS NO OTHER COMMAND GREATER THAN THESE.'”
LukE 10:27 “He answered. ‘Love the Lord your God with all YOUR HEART, with all YOUR SOUL, with all YOUR STRENGTH, and with all YOUR MIND; and YOUR NEIGHBOR as yourself.'”
Rob, the first 4 of the 10 commandments explains how to LOVE Yeshua; the last 6 commandments explains how to LOVE your neighbors.
You CAN’T LOVE either Yeshua or your neighbors, IN YOUR FLESH / AS AN UNSAVED / UNLESS GOD-HOLY SPIRIT ENABLES YOUR HEART, SOUL, BODY / STRENGTH / MIND!
I watch you interacting on Facebook with those with whom you disagree. You are NOT expressing LOVE for your neighbor / your brothers in Christ Jesus. Instead you are defending your LAW’s demands as you claim them to be.
Deu 10:12, 16
“And now, Israel, what does the LORD your God require of YOU, but to fear the LORD YOUR God, to WALK IN ALL HIS WAYS, and to LOVE HIM, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
So circumcise YOUR HEART, and stiffen your neck no longer.
Lev 19:18 “‘You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF; I am the LORD.”
Rob, SALVATION is a GIFT, “….not of works lest any man should BOAST”
DELIVERANCE FROM BONDAGE – Rom 8: 1-11
1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are IN CHRIST JESUS. (Rob, are you “in Christ Jesus?”) 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus HAS SET YOU FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH. (Rob, have you been set free from the law of sin and death?) 3 For WHAT THE LAW COULD NOT DO, weak as it was through the flesh, GOD DID: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, (Rob, have you determined that your FLESH is WEAK? Rob, did Yeshua incarnate “in the likeness of sinful flesh?” Rob, did Yeshua condemn sin in the flesh?) 4 so that THE REQUIREMENT OF THE LAW MIGHT BE FULFILLED IN US, who DO NOT WALK ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT. (Rob, are you trying to KEEP THE LAW according to your FLESH? Rob, are your WALKING / GETTING Y0UR FEET DUSTY, ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT?) 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but THE MIND SET ON THE SPIRIT is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for IT DOES NOT SUBJECT ITSELF TO THE LAW OF GOD, for IT IS NOT EVEN ABLE TO DO SO, 8 and those who are in the flesh CANNOT PLEASE GOD.
9 However, you are not in the flesh but IN THE SPIRIT, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, though the body is dead because of sin, yet THE SPIRIT IS ALIVE BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead DWELLS IN YOU, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead WILL ALSO GIVE LIFE TO YOUR MORTAL BODIES through His Spirit who dwells in you.”
Rob, did your catch this: “life and peace”?
The WORK of KEEPING THE LAW has already been COMPLETED!
THE LAW has already been KEPT by Christ Jesus IN YOUR BEHALF!!!!!
Rob, you just need to keep your FEET / your daily walking in the FLESH, CLEANSED according to 1John 1:9.
Oy vey
Rob, this article on Joshua’s Long Day might interest you:
http://creation.com/joshuas-long-day
Mary
Acts 10:10-16 “And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Wherein were all manner of four-footed beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice [spake] unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, [that] call not thou common.
This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.”
Rob, Peter is a Christian-Jew, now. He is to go to the Gentiles – to the unclean! Jesus commanded Peter to eat “ALL MANNER OF FOUR-FOOTED BEASTS OF THE EARTH, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air” “What God hath cleansed, [that] call not thou common”
Rob, you are a New Testament Christian and NOT AN OLD TESTAMENT JEW!
Do you actually read your Bible or just cherry pick Mary??? The text actually interprets itself and tells you at least twice that the “unclean meat” had to do with PEOPLE and NOT pork!!!! Please note, at NO TIME do we see Peter or ANY OTHER New Testament Believer eating unclean meat. He was shown something to carefully consider as an association. Beyond that, re-read Romans 11 and Ephesians 2 as it is abundantly clear that you still suffer from an identity crisis.
http://creation.com/creation-tv?fileID=y28OaM5c0Fg
Rob, Creation Ministries International gives evidences for a spherical Earth.
You are a liar, of course, the four corners of the earth are referring to the 4 cardinal points. Even nowadays people say if you go to the north I will go the south. Is perfect understandable.
Now about Isaiah, how someone that writes that the earth is spheric “Isaiah 40:22” is going to think the earth is flat just because he writes as well “Isaiah 11:12 “four corners.”
You can see the same author is saying the earth is spheric and he as well uses 4 corners. You are the wrong guy. What a liar (please don’t delete the comments that try to tell other people the true) like “Dan the Man, the Myth, the Legend” comments.
The four cardinal POINTS? Really? OK. Please tell me where the East “point” or “pole” or “corner” can be located. Then show me the same for the West. Thanks.
Isaiah NEVER said anything about the Earth being “spheric.” Nice try though. Sorry. CIRCLE is not the same as sphere/ball/globe.
And Dan the knuckle-dragging, antagnistic troll has been blocked for good reason. And shall remain so.
Earth is flat. Nasa is a lie and its part of the deception just like evolution. Research it. There is a dome over earth. No space. No planets just fallen angels and people here. Read book of Enoch.
thank you for this info I have been studieng this for a while and really needed this.
Isaiah 40:22
22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
every bible has this same translation from KJV to ESV, this verse says the earth is round
so for the 4 corners north, east, south, west there is no ending point if it’s a flat earth yes it will end but if it’s round it doesn’t end. i mean also depending on which verse is used Greek and Hebrew some words have to 3-4 meanings for same word.
also not sure why God would make a flat earth when he made every other planet round also since it’s god he could make planets into triangle or circles, or round objects also why would God put a dome over a earth as well what type of dome are we talking about and finally this
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
question is how can i trust you all i know is if nasa is spreading lies and everyone else that’s religious, how do i know your not a false teacher because lies are deceitful because god created scientist even Steven hawking, without going into the whole free will vs pre destination why can’t God just create a round earth? why does God have to create a flat earth
Round… tables are round without being spherical. Might want to change your terminology. KJV and nearly all others also say CIRCLE not “sphere/ball/globe.” Words mean things. Look it up. Billiard balls are spherical. Does that demand the table HAS TO BE too? Not a good argument. As for the “dome” look up the word FIRMament. It’s a hard, firm, solid structure, attached to the CIRCLE of the Earth. Hence a “dome” shape is assumed. Your use of 2 Tim. 4:3-4 is really more of a condemnation towards you (and all others who believe in the spherical Earth) than me, as ALL of the Scriptures that make any mention of the shape and nature of our world, do so consistently from Genesis to Revelation with a circular, still flat world set on pillars, under a solid FIRMament, within which were the sun, moon and stars placed. So, I am the one adhering to “sound doctrine” here, not you. As for who to trust, I would say put your trust in the Holy Spirit and believe what the Holy Spirit inspired authors wrote. Let God be true and everyone else a liar.