Most people say that the Earth is spinning at about 1,000 mph and that it is orbiting around the sun at 66,600 mph and that it is being hurled through space in a vortex around the sun, which itself is shooting through the Milky Way at some 514,000 mph. Christians blindly support such ideas, while clinging to one – and only one – verse in the whole Bible, which they claim justifies their belief in a spinning, globular Earth “hung” in space:
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
And yet, this verse isn’t saying what they think it’s saying at all. Job himself had already previously stated that the Earth is set on a foundation of pillars.
Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
And again here (keep in mind that in Job 38 it is YHWH speaking):
Job 38:
4 Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding,
5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
6 On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job is the oldest book in the Bible. The author and characters in the book of Job were well aware of the circular, still, flat Earth model, which was supported by a firm foundation of pillars. Again, in Job 38 it is YHWH Himself – the CREATOR – describing the Earth being laid upon a foundation of bases (pillars), which themselves are supported by something flat, which has a cornerstone. The terms used here are all used in the same fashion as one would commonly describe building a house.
Since Job references these exact descriptions of a firm foundation upon which the Earth is set both before and after Job 26:7 and since NO other Scripture anywhere in the Bible backs up or in any way confirms the notion of the Earth as being “hung in the nothingness of space,” it is far better to view the ONE Scripture in question as saying that the Earth is hung on no thing – as in it isn’t hanging on anything, but rather it is clearly set upon something. If interested in more on this, I cover it in a lot more depth in my Pillars of the Earth blog on TestingTheGlobe.com.
Indeed, the Scriptures testify time and time again of the foundations and pillars of a fixed, stationary world. Probably most blatantly so according to the Psalmist:
It doesn’t matter which English translation you prefer, they’re all saying the same thing: The Earth is laid upon a firm foundation that is NOT moving! The word for “foundation” is “makon” in Hebrew:
The word clearly indicates a fixed place – a firm foundation and NOT something moving, spinning, or in any way hurling through space. The above word, “makon” is derived from “kun,” which means:
Indeed, we are on a firm, stationary, fixed structure. And although YHWH has the ability to “shake it” and cause this place to quake, it still remains solid, fixed and firm.
This sort of language is used all through the Bible. So, anyone trying to say the Bible even remotely supports any notion of a spinning, heliocentric, globular Earth, hurling through the vast emptiness of space is sorely deceived and/or suffering from an extremely severe case of cognitive dissonance.
- Rob Skiba
Dude, are you stupid or something?
You can’t produce a single verse that says outight, “the earth is flat shaped and NOT spherical”.
Period.
You should seek professional help regarding this topic, as you are displaying symptoms of multiple mental diseases. I’m not saying that to be shocking. It’s just true.
Have you been an idiot all your life or did you have to really work at it? Just wondering. Because I have produced dozens of verses that CLEARLY describe this place as anything but a sphere. Whereas, it is YOU – and those like you – who cannot produce a single verse that even remotely describes this place as a spinning ball. Instead, all you can do is come here and insult, while displaying excessive amounts of cognitive dissonance, saying I’m the one who needs “professional help” due to “mental diseases.” SMH. Get a clue or go away troll.
Mercury and venus are closer to the sun than earth. We should not be able to see either of these two planets in the night sky under the globe model.
The moon is not visible anywhere in the world for 48 hours every month.
The earth is flat and the moon is self illuminating.
Keep doing what you are doing Rob. God Bless You Sir.
NICK PELUSO, anyone who so desires to VIEW Mercury or Venus in the night sky, can do so. It is NOT POSSIBLE during 365 days of the year, though! The position of both Mercury and Venus in their orbits must be such that AFTER the Sun sets, Mercury or Venus is visible for a short period of time AFTER the sun sets or BEFORE the Sun rises, Mercury or Venus is visible for a short time BEFORE the Sun rises. Some amount of darkness is needed in order for an Earth viewer to see the planet. Because both Mercury and Venus are orbiting the Sun CLOSER TO THE SUN than is Earth, their orbital distance FROM THE SUN, determines the length of time during which they are visible to Earth viewers. Venus, being farther from the Sun than Mercury, is visible longer BEFORE THE SUN RISES, of longer AFTER THE SUN SETS. If either planet is behind or in front of the Sun during their orbits, Earth viewers will not see the reflected light of either planet.
We do see the Moon during daylight hours, IF THE SUN is shining upon that portion of the Moon which is facing the Earth observer. IF THE SUN is shining upon the back side of the Moon, then, BECAUSE the moonlight is reflecting SUNLIGHT, Earth viewers do not see the Moon, even during Earth’s viewer’s daytime.
The Moon makes one trip around the rotating, spherical Earth ONCE every 27 days. “The Moon orbits Earth at a speed of 2,288 miles per hour (3,683 kilometers per hour). During this time it travels a distance of 1,423,000 miles (2,290,000 kilometers).” The Moon spherical is rotating at a speed such that it ALWAYS has its same face toward the Earth.
Mary
C’mon Rob, give it up, we all know the earth isn’t flat and you have to extrapolate meaning to force the verses to justify this approach. It’s time to move on to topics that actually matter rather than this distraction.
Uhm… no, it is you who would have to “extrapolate meaning” and “force verses” to fit ANY notion of a spinning, heliocentric globular Earth, not me. Nice try though. As for this allegedly being a “distraction” please read EVERY testimony on this page: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/testimonies.html and then let’s compare fruit baskets.
The scriptures were written based on their understanding of the world which was not as extensive as what we have now.
The spinning earth was proven 93 years ago, gravity proven more than 200 years ago and the heliocentric model is over 2200 years old.
Um…questionable retort on your part. Just a feeble attempt at researching the information in our history will give you more than enough evidence to create a substantial doubt about the efficacy of the existence of ‘gravity’ and a ‘spinning ball’ earth model around an average “star” in an even average galaxy.
No really. It’s appalling how unscientific these negative contrary replies are. No spirit of empirical fact-finding, just an apriori clinging to the cosmology that’s been promoted for what, only 500 years? I think we’ve been duped into believing that we are superior intellectually to our ancestors who had brains and minds dramatically less corrupted in merely the realm of genetics and DNA code.
Your response and many others are so knee-jerk, it’s frankly disturbing. No spirit of honest intellectual pursuit here. Carry on, Rob.
Rob, keep up the good work. I’ve been impressed with how you handily respond to a lot of jerks who, with such ‘certainty,’ try to dismiss your earnest and diligent work without supplying their own DD. They figure they don’t have to because it’s an a priori ‘given’ that heliocentrism is cosmo gospel. Phooey. I’m behind you all the way. Mike L. in Wesley Chapel, FL.
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So what are your thoughts on the Koran and various Talmudic teachings which endorse the flat earth?
Not surprising. Virtually EVERY ancient culture believed it for the better part of more than 4,000 years. It should therefore be of no surprise that it would come up in their writings.
Hate to say it, but the knee-jerk baller insult-a-grams appended to this post do all have something in common besides an astounding lack of class. Gravity. It’s the Achilles Heel of Flat Earth (besides the Eclipse thing which neither the spheroids nor the flats can explain–at least to my satisfaction).
I have been engaging without purpose with a member of IFERS on this topic, thinking that the word “Research” in their acronym actually meant they were engaged in thoughtful investigation of some kind, but evidently I was misled. I merely wanted to know what was it about the flat earth that encouraged objects to fall towards it? After all, just because the ballers’ gravity model is often misapplied and doesn’t operate outside a terrestrial context as they say, there is no reason to suppose there is no force exerted on objects having mass. “Density” and “Buoyancy” beg the question. They are both functions of the baller gravity model, as no liquid or gas would be adhering to the globe earth to support either one.
It would be helpful to rely on the dome of the “Firmament” to keep the atmosphere enclosed and thus provide a medium for “Density” to emulate “Gravity”, but alas, this would require that Brownian motion distributed the atmosphere fairly equally throughout the dome, and, in the case of the upper atmosphere, that is apparently not happening. Even if you were to postulate this, there are terrestrial vacuum chambers which would dispute that model.
Therefore, I believe we have a legitimate problem. The Bill Nye gravity model has a lot of holes in it, but at least they have kind of a consensus on the baller side. Despite the excellent work Rob and Eric and the Sarge have done over the years, I believe this question is still a giant question mark. I’ve tried to bring this up with Eric’s crowd. Now I’ll give the FE Torah folks a try.
Thanks
fritz
I’m content with the indisputable fact that NO ONE knows what “gravity” really is or how it really works. Something causes stuff to “stick” to the Earth and objects dropped from above to drop down to it. What makes this happen and how is a question NO ONE has the answer to at the moment. All EVERYONE has is speculation.
You must be feeling pretty good about now with respect to your brilliant work on Flat Earth ? Everyone that ever mocked you, everyone period, is about to be seriously Red Pilled. Please tell me you have the latest photos. We (WIfe & I) have followed your work for years and found it encouraging and easy to listen to.
I would have attached the photo here, but will gladly send it if you contact my email